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Post by zologold on Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:53 pm

I thought this would be an interesting thing to see. I am going to post some statistics about my clan (some that you just have to do a little math to get.)

I will do an example and anyone who wants can follow.

(First start out with some basic information)
Clan Name: HeavyWarfarePro
Members: 17
Wins/Losses: 120/85
Level: 3

(Now into the math, if you don't know how to do it, your probably not old enough to be playing this)

Win/ Loss Ratio: 1.41
Average Clan War KDs: 1.00
Average Player KDs: 1.29
Rating (calculated by adding up the past 3 numbers and multiplying by 2 then dividing by 3)
A- 3.00
B-2.00
C-1.00
(anything else, im sorry)
(2.46) B


This is something i wanted to ask though. I came up with 2 systems for finding rank. I picked this one because I didn't want to make it seem rigged for my clan getting an A with the other. I would like to know what you guys think.

(add up all numbers multiply by 3 then divide by 2)
This one would have a maximum of 6 meaning:
6: A
5:B
4:C
(Again anything else im sorry)
(NOTICE: If your wondering what you should do if your numbers are in between, just round to the nearest number)
Leaving my clan with: 5.55- A
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Post by Jugg3r on Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:27 pm

Clan Name: .DNC.
Experience: 53,650
Members: 51
Wins/Losses: 1103/1134
Level: 5 - Regiment

Win/ Loss Ratio: .97
Average Clan War KDs: 1.01
Average Player KDs: (Sorry, 51 individual members to search through and I am lazy.... LOL)
Rating: Unknown cause I am too lazy to look up the Average Player KDR for 51 members.

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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by zologold on Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:30 pm

yah i know what you mean they should create something more convenient for that.
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Post by The_Warden on Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:40 pm

Do statistics in CA really matter? .DNC. is a lot better than their 0.97 win/loss ratio.

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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by zologold on Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:02 pm

yes they do, there fun to look at. And for the most part stats reflect skill. Keep in mind average for clans is around .8
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Post by zologold on Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:10 pm

and does .DNC. even have a kd ratio to get in? because if you don't that may be part of the contributing to the lower ratio. Note: Obviously there are good players on there, but as they say, your only as strong as your weakest link.

Also a possibilty might be that they didn't start off well, and as they grew they became better.
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Post by The_Warden on Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:42 pm

"Also a possibilty might be that they didn't start off well, and as they grew they became better." So that would make their statistics mean very little. People change a good lot after a period of time. I would rather look at an average of your weekly kdr from the past X number of weeks. Overall kdr doesn't indicate much. Ex- What if someone plays on a windows 95 PC with terrible hardware and gets to 2nd LT with 0 kills because he lagged so much. Then he gets a new PC (top notch) and turns out that he averages a 5.0 kdr weekly. His kdr will not get to 5.0 very quickly since he would probably have a good 100,000 deaths already with 0 kills. Are you going to say he is a bad player since he has like a 0.10 kdr (after a few months)? It is also easy enough to boost your clan stats, just start making new accounts and get a 10 kdr in Jackson server.

"Obviously there are good players on there, but as they say, your only as strong as your weakest link." Not really, the weakest links do not play in the competitive matches (EX-WOGL). Regular scrims mean very little, all it does is give you xp and a win or a lose (not that important compared to WOGL). While on the other hand WOGL has a prize of 50,000 NX for 10 people on the winning team (Making money is better than getting xp and a win or lose in my opinion). I wouldn't consider Vertu weak if they let someone in that can't get a kill. I wouldn't put Vertu down to the same level of not getting a kill: they would most likely still win if they only had three players (4v4 game).

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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by IdiotWithGun on Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:56 pm

Clan Name: -inSight
Members: 41
Win/Loss Record: 827/207
Level: 4

Win/Loss Ratio: 4.0 (technically like 3.995 - one win away from 4.0)
Average Clan K/Ds: 1.5ish
Average Player K/Ds: 1.8ish

= 7.3
Times 2 = 14.6
Divided by 3 = 4.86666666666

Flawed System?

Its even higher using the other method .___.

(10.95 O.o)

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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by Jugg3r on Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:44 am

DNC does not have a kdr restriction on joining. We simply ask that you be active and be legit. We don't discriminate based on your skill because if you stay active and continue to play with our really good members, you will get better and learn the strats and angles that are necessary to win.

We also do not hold any requirements or regulations on clan wars like some clans do. We allow all of our members to clan war regardless of who is online at the time. So many of our losses have been due to clan wars that took place while none of our talented members were present. Again, this falls back on the you get better with practice theory. If we allow our members to clan war whenever they want, they will play really good clans, and by watching these other clans roll them and by watching the angles and strats that the other clan used, they will get better. Hopefully!!!

DNC is all about being legit, and having fun. We are more of a family, than a clan.

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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by -ProjektRev- on Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:59 am

"DNC is all about being legit and having fun. We are more of a family, than a clan."

We've had a clan like that.. skill never was important we always went over starts... everyday, worked together as a team.. held spots.. this was the first face of B.E.B then everything went downhill, and now they have top players that have a lot of skill but the family thing is long gone.. i guess it's a matter of fact you play for fun or to win. Looking at B.E.B i have to say they changed to the "WIN" only clan.
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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by zologold on Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:53 pm

the warden please, if you dont have any interesting clan information dont even post.
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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by The_Warden on Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:11 pm

Alright sorry, I was just wondering how your method of ranking clans was valid.

Here are Muskieteers "interesting clan information":

Clan Name: Muskieteers
Members: 33
Wins/Losses: 165/383
Level: 4

Win/ Loss Ratio: 0.43
Average Clan War KDs: ~0.3
Average Player KDs: ~0.7

Rating: I guess that puts us below your scale around F-Z.

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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by zologold on Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:32 pm

and idiotw/gun by estimating i believe you messed up the numbers.

it may be flawed but try it w/o estimating.
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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by -DirtyTooth- on Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:34 pm

wow zologold dont be a **** .. hes just posting his Opinion ...
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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by IdiotWithGun on Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:38 pm

Its fine, Ill actually be happy to prove this...

Clan name: -inSight
Members: 39
Win/Loss Record: 834/209
Level: 4

Win/Loss Ratio: 4.0
Average Clan War/Scrim KDR: 1.44
Average Player KDR: 69.20/39 = 1.77

Id say I had fair estimates...

4.0 + 1.44 + 1.77 = 7.21
Times 2 = 14.42
Divided by 3 = 4.81

Flawed system.

(Other method comes out with 10.815)

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Re: Interesting Clan information

Post by Jugg3r on Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:15 pm

Locking Thread. If the author and the members who choose to reply cannot play nice, the post will continue to be locked.

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